Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moheet

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Media in Egypt. Noting the consensus that the article shouldn't remain, I am sympathetic to Piotr's comment regarding preserving. Therefore, I have redirected to allow the content to be rescued from behind the redirect, if there is an editorial desire to merge somewhere. Daniel (talk) 13:00, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Moheet

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No significant coverage per WP:WEB and the website doesn't exist anymore. SL93 (talk) 02:48, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. SL93 (talk) 02:49, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Arab Emirates-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:06, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

• Delete Fails GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:30, 17 May 2021 (UTC) 09:48, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
• Keep The website will be back. It's getting a revamp. It has been one of the major websites to get Arabic news since the early days of the Arabic Internet and especially in the late nineties and the first decade of the 2000's. You can ask the administrators of the Arabic Wikipedia about its importance --Salah Almhamdi (talk) 19:59, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Salah Almhamdi, WP:ITSIMPORTANT or "in our experience" is not good enough. We need sources to prove this is the case. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:21, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
• Comment. I really wish we could keep it, but my source review only found few citations plus one sentence of analysis (about its bias) in a niche academic paper (and quoted in few others); I've added that cite to the article. So on the surface, yes, this fails WEB/GNG. That said, WP:SYSTEMICBIAS is also an issue and sources may exist in Arabic. WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES is not enough for me to vote keep, but given the systemic bias issue, I am also not prepared to vote delete. That said, I am leaning to weak delete given it does not appear in top 50 sites in Egypt or Saudi Arabila ([1], [2] according to Alexa). PS. The portal is offline, according to LoC, since 2017 [3]? Here's a very brief mention of it getting blocked in Egypt around that time: [4]. Anyway, this means that current Alexa ranking is not good, we would need to look at historical one, and that is not free. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:21, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
• Delete: It appears to fail WP:GNG/WP:WEB, but my view would change if actual significant coverage in reliable sources can be found in historical sources. — MarkH₂₁^talk 03:14, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:08, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

• Delete - Does not meet WP:WEBCRIT. I take User:Piotrus's point about WP:SYSTEMICBIAS, but feel that the Arab language version being smaller and having no sources suggests we can discount that argument somewhat. AntiVan (talk) 12:07, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
• Comment. Any thoughts on where this could be redirected or even better, merged? Maybe Media in Egypt? WP:PRESERVE would be nice here, given the systemic bias (maybe there are sources in Arabic, but we don't have volunteers to search for them...). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
• Comment As an editor based in the Arab world who often finds himself fighting a lone fight, I'm probably relatively sensitive to the idea of systemic bias. In this case, however, I don't think it applies. Moheet is a dead site - currently a blank page with 'wait it's coming' in Arabic. When it comes, if it comes, and someone says something (anything) about its coming, then it will be 'a thing'! Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:34, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Egypt-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:37, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.