Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Duncan (total drama island)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirected to Total Drama#Characters. It's very clear that no one is in favor of retaining this 14-word sub-stub. Consensus is split over whether a redirect is appropriate, but four relists later, this has had its time in the sun. As several people noted, redirects are cheap. Non-admin closure. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:59, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Duncan (total drama island)

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Need I really give a rationale for this. It does not meet WP:GNG, there are no reliable sources covering "Duncan" only, in fact, the subject of the article doesn't even exist. A character on a low-rated TV show is all. The article doesn't even have any significant content to be merged into any articles, much less sources. Wow, how the fuck did this get here. ceradon (talk • contribs) 00:28, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

• Comment You know? Instead of cussing we can talk about this like real grown people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JuvieDelinquent (talk • contribs) 03:15, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

• Strong delete. No evidence of any out-of-universe significance of this character. I'm not even sure this warrants leaving a redirect back to Total Drama#Characters, which is where the old List of Total Drama characters now redirects. —C.Fred (talk) 03:19, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
• Fix title, redirect to Total_Drama#Characters. The character of Duncan is not notable outside of the series, at least not enough to merit his own article, but I do think that there is merit in having this turned into a redirect to the main page. He's a reocurring character and has been in each season of the show, sometimes as a major character and sometimes as a minor character (from what I can see from the fan wikias). It's reasonable enough of a search hit, given how popular the TV show is and redirects are cheap. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:24, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

• Also I would like to ask that everyone be civil about this. While Wikipedia is not censored and people can cuss, I do have to caution you ceradon that cussing can be seen as hostility by other editors and we do need to be careful to make sure that Wikipedia is seen as a welcoming community. I'm not saying that I don't agree with you in that the character is non-notable and there's nothing to merge, just that you could probably have phrased this a little better and left out the first and last sentences. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:27, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  21:11, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deadbeef 01:40, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

• Delete: With respect to TokyoGirl, I do not believe this character is even significant enough to bother with a redirect, but it costs nothing so I would not oppose it.

But I certainly agree with TokyoGirl's remarks regarding ceradon's use of foul language, which was completely unnecessary in the circumstances. The article was less than 24 hours old when this nomination was made, so it is not a situation where the article had been lying around neglected for years. On top of that, it was JuvieDelinquent's second day here and their second attempt at creating an article. I notice they haven't been back since posting the comment below the nomination, so nice job scaring off a new contributor. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:57, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

@Athomeinkobe: Yes, I cursed, but only out of pure dumbfoundedness about the nature of this article. Wikipedia isn't censored. If you're going to let one "bad word" get under your skin then this may not be the place for you. Tokyogirl79's comments were constructive. I acknowledged them (without recommenting), figured out what I did wrong and I'll definitely try to do better in the future, especially with new editors. Your comment downright antagonizes me, and that doesn't come off right to me. Furthermore, your argument is non sequitur. Yes he hasn't edited since the day I posted this but behind that account is a human being who has a life. Additionally, the user's talkpage is filled with scary warnings we use for vandals which may also have been offputting. I'll apologize to the user, if that helps. Damnation seize my soul if I commit an action that could be construed as uncivil, especially to a new editor, the future of this encyclopedia, and I don't apologize.

I seek not to get into an argument with you; these things can turn acrimonious quickly. Neither do I seek an apology – but I do ask you to heed my comment. Thank you, --ceradon (talk • contribs) 01:19, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  - The Herald (here I am) 13:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• Comment: Just a quick little bit of info: the character has been in every season of the show to day (five seasons as of right now) and he's been in 77 episodes out of the 120 that have aired, predominantly as a speaking character. That's the biggest reason I'm arguing for a redirect- he's been in a large chunk of the show and is one of the characters that people tend to identify with the show. (I think Gwen and Courtney are the other two that many identify as some of the more main characters in the show.) I mostly just wanted to throw this in here for the argument for a redirect. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 15:57, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  - The Herald (here I am) 16:04, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

• Delete: While fictional characters can become WP:NOTABLE due to pop culture (looking at you Dana Scully), it doesn't really appear (due to lack of discussion about Duncan specifically) that this Duncan fellow has entered the popular consciousness. Also a painfully short stub. --KRAPENHOEFFER! TALK 16:37, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

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